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Sunday, July 27, 2008

Troubling web site - Datingpsychos.com

There is a web site called Dating Psychos that really should be shut down. I have been working with a victim who dated this guy, stopped dating him and he just couldn't deal with it. He's already put up a few, I got them taken down, he called Animal Control where she lives and claimed she abused her dogs - the dogs were taken away and were going to be euthanized, but she convinced Animal Control that this guy was out to ruin her life. This guy has also called the Social Security Administration on her claiming she's a prostitute trying to get them to investigate her and some other things. It got so bad that she tried to commit suicide a week ago.

I was finally able to talk to an FBI agent in the state where the victim lives and this agent is appalled by this web site. She is going to find an agent in the bureau closest to the victim, but now the cyberstalker has put up a new profile on the Dating Psychos web site that lists her home address, home phone number, photo and more. She's been getting phone calls from men looking for sex. What does it take before one of these whackos comes to her door and forces his way in and rapes and/or kills her?

I told the victim to call the FBI agent (I also called the agent and left a voicemail) and also her local police, who have been no help whatsoever to her. She also tried her local DAs office, but he never returns her phone calls and probably thinks this is just some minor "Internet thing."

I am very concerned, not only about the victim I'm working with, but some of the other people who have had profiles put up on this web site about them. One is a woman with children and the children's photo is on the profile, along with contact information.

This site is truly frightening - the owner doesn't give a shit (he's been contacted by the victim and by me and refuses to do anything); the server hosting the site won't respond to emails or phone calls and I am tearing my hair out. If the site owner does contact the victim, he demands $25 before he'll pull the profile. The last time I looked, that's extortion and is illegal.

I want to make sure this is publicly known - all means to get this profile taken down have been taken by the victim and me. The web site owner is negligent and should never have put the site up in the first place.

The FBI is doing what they can, but until an agent shows up at the victim's door to interview her, she has to live in fear for her life.

I can understand being pissed off at someone you dated, but this site goes way too far and someone will end up injured or dead as a result. If it's my victim, there will be more than hell to pay.

I am hoping the public and maybe the media will put pressure on the web site owner to pull the web site completely, or revamp it so that it's not so harassing and threatening. He's too much of a coward to list his real contact info on WHOIS (web site owner registration), but the email he lists on his web site is J-Dog.

Help me get this site to stop exposing people to harassing phone calls and possible physical injury, rape or death.

23 Comments:

Anonymous Fighter said...

JDog used to respond to threats from genuine psychos and wrongly posted people to take it down...

Now you have to PAY him at least $25 to get it taken down. He does no background checks, nothing. Nor does he police the site for slander or libel in the posts or comments. At least psychosandplayers.com is a LOT more responsible about it.

7/30/2008 04:53:00 AM  
Blogger Lani said...

I can understand those who are posted on this sites only because someone was merely angry with the person and is now putting up lies.

However, I have posted someone on DatingPsychos myself and I feel this person is one of those the site was originally created for. He is a sociopath and "downlow" boy who lies to women about his bisexuality, possibly exposing them to HIV, or some other std. As far as I can tell he hasn't been on anymore "dating" sites trolling for new victims since the post went up.

7/30/2008 10:51:00 AM  
Blogger Net Crimes & Misdemeanors said...

Lani - I understand being upset with someone, but posting their info on a web site, no matter what they did to you, is just not right. There are legal options you can follow if this person is exposing women to HIV, etc. I just hope you didn't post his personal contact info on that site, because that can be considered harassment/stalking and you could get in trouble yourself. I wouldn't want to see that happen.

7/30/2008 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Fighter said...

JA - considering that our site exposes Online Predators who prey on other adults, we have no problem with exposure sites. However - we draw the line at posting someone's address, phone number, place of work, social security - etc.

Our article: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/12/02/193150.php
explains our view of it.

But, sites like DatingPsychos don't offer a legal release like we do and don't police the information... therefore anyone can post anything... even if its slander.

On our site on the right hand margin, we have a list under EXPOSE them of sites that are more responsible. And warnings about ones that aren't.

Posting someone can be a first step in validation and healing. Sandra Brown, MA and other counselors who deal with the aftermath of pathological relationships recommend doing this and we agree. However, keep comments truthful and no personal information.

Here's an article about another site to avoid: http://enpsychopedia.org/index.php/Womansavers

7/30/2008 03:50:00 PM  
Blogger Net Crimes & Misdemeanors said...

Fighter- with precautions in place like what you have, I don't have a problem with your site. Kudos to you!

7/30/2008 04:05:00 PM  
Blogger FIGHTER said...

Thanks, Jayne.

We had one of our exposed predators post one of his victims on the site - along with the names of her minor children, her address & phone and tell people to stop by her house for sex so her children can watch. BTW, this victim? Is seriously disabled and has PTSD from this man. She finally called the police, who did nothing. We helped her educate the police and helped her write her own c&d and send copies to the police and the FBI (the predator said he was going to "finish her off") and ONLY with the C&D did law enforcement take her seriously.

JDog seems to have no clear disclaimer on his site and yes, asking for money to remove improper postings and eventually, he will be sued out of business.

We tell our victims that want to open up sites specifically about their cyberpath to THOROUGHLY READ www.eff.org (Blogger's Rights) and The Citizen Media Law Project for what they can and can't do online as well as employing COMMON SENSE. Posting should be done as a way to educate the public & validate yourself. Revenge always backfires.

Unfortunately, JDog fuels the revenge. And its equally hard to take down the information once someone has posted it, time goes by, and they forget their sign in informaton. Also it is next to impossible to remove comments, some of which are actionable, from what we've seen.

(BTW - belated congrats on your marriage!)

7/30/2008 10:45:00 PM  
Blogger Net Crimes & Misdemeanors said...

Fighter - thank you for the belated congrats. We're having our reception party in a week and I'm going crazy, ha ha.

8/04/2008 12:40:00 PM  
OpenID kristinhurley28 said...

The Gentleman has violated the restraining order several times but when I call the police they tell me the same thing" There is nothing we can do, our hands are tied". And it sucks.

8/17/2008 08:21:00 PM  
Anonymous J Johnson, GA said...

I also posted someone on JDog's datingpsychos site and was very dismayed when all it took was a few dollars for him to take it down. EVERYTHING I said was true and was posted to warn other women. The man I posted is a sociopath, lying to women up and down the east coast. He is bisexual, prefers never to have safe sex with men, and is spreading STDs. He knows how to psychologically prey upon vulnerable women. I have heard from many he has hurt........Yet, it seems a dollar matters more to JDog than truth. What a useless website!

10/20/2008 10:13:00 PM  
Blogger Net Crimes & Misdemeanors said...

G Johnson: Posting person info about a person on *any* web site is illegal and considered harassment. If he is as bad as you say, there are legal options to report him to the proper authorities. That's what you need to do.

10/21/2008 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Fighter said...

Here's what JDog told one of our Cyberpaths:

J-Dog --J-Dog@resentment.org wrote:
> >
> > You can get an IP address, the email address used when the person signed up to post the >>profile, and I will add your name to an auto-delete script so should anyone decide to add you to >>the site again, your name will be deleted within 5 minutes.


Yes - for $25 you can get the IP number and email of whoever posted you as well as just about anyone else on that site.

JDog gave one of our more aggressive cyberharassers the email and IP of one of our who doesn't even KNOW the predator!!

JDog's site will probably be sued soon.

3/20/2009 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger Net Crimes & Misdemeanors said...

Fighter, I agree with you - J-Dog is going to be sued one of these days and I hope he loses his site for good.

3/21/2009 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm one of those who would liek to sue J-Dog...but I have not been able to find out who he really is. Does anyone have a real name for this guy?

5/05/2009 04:00:00 PM  
Blogger Net Crimes & Misdemeanors said...

You need to hire a lawyer to subpoena the ISP that hosts his web site to get his real name and info.

5/06/2009 10:24:00 AM  
Blogger The Toylanders said...

This post has been removed by the author.

10/08/2009 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any one wanting JDOGS information can contact me. He owns a software company in Southern California.

Leave a message her will contact you.

10/16/2009 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous J-Dog said...

J-Dog Here.... 90% of the stuff said here is untrue. I do not require a donation to remove a profile. I will happily remove a profile if someone writes in and calmly asks to have a profile removed and offers some sort of proof that the profile is fake.

What is hilarious is what many of you psychos are writing. You guys spend time posting profiles on my site, then when someone posts a profile on you, you get all upset and offended and write in 20 times in 5 minutes demanding stuff be removed immediately.

Also... Gary Stone... You are a liar.. You never paid me $125 to have profiles removed... You and your psycho friends started using my site to post profiles on one another in some childish war. I wound up removing well over 10 profiles posted on yourself, and profiles you posted on others, and this is the thanks I get.... lovely.

TO ALL WHO ARE READING THIS.... This is J-Dog the real owner of datingpsychos.com! If you would like a profile removed, how about writing in calmly and asking for the profile to be removed.... you might be surprised how much you can get when you ask nicely as opposed to cursing and threatening.

I started this site to expose psychos of the world... unfortunately there are a few misguided individuals who prefer to use my site as a forum to bash their enemies. I do my best to police the site, however occasionally an innocent person is posted. If you feel you were wrongly posted on the site, please feel free to email me and ask to have the profile removed.

J-Dog
J-Dog@DatingPsychos.com

10/28/2009 10:03:00 AM  
Blogger Net Crimes & Misdemeanors said...

J-Dog, I have to dispute the "I do not require a donation to remove a profile" - advocates from my organization, WHOA, tried to get a profile removed and you demanded a $25 "donation."

10/28/2009 10:38:00 AM  
Blogger The Toylanders said...

I have the pay pal payment
to jdog. care to see it?

10/28/2009 10:52:00 AM  
Blogger The Toylanders said...

Gary Stone wrote:
> Before doing this, I want to know if a name is associated with this post.
> I need the name, an un anonymous email, and an IP, if I cant get that, or be guarrenteed that, there's no point.
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, J-Dog
>
> Go ahead and make the donation and I will lookup this information for you and remove the profile.
>
> J-Dog
>
> backbeatone@gmail.com wrote:
>
> You have received a question or comment from a visitor on the datingpsychos.com website.
> Customer Info
> -------------------
> Full Name : Gary Stone
> Email Address : backbeatone@gmail.com
> User Agent : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009021910 Firefox/3.0.7 GTB5
> Remote Addr : 24.128.87.102
> Timestamp : 03/19/2009 04:38:20
>
> Question / Comment
> -------------------
> I will send you 100 dollars via pay pal
> for you to tell me whoput up the gary stone page. the ip address, and for the removal of the page, and for an assurance you will not allow them to put up another. I need the actual identity of the person who did it.
>
>

10/28/2009 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous J-Dog said...

Toylanders aka Gary Stone,
You have written into my site too many times to count. Most I have not replied to because you copy and paste what you like and fabricate emails. I have removed over 10 profiles which different users have posted on you and continue to remove profiles which users are still posting on you and yet you still complain and fabricate stories. Your threats of FBI and lawsuits and general behavior tends to make be believe that indeed you are a psycho and I am not sure what else I could do to satisfy you. If indeed I am ever contacted by law enforcement officials, I happily comply with all requests.


Net Crimes & Misdemeanors,
I do have an auto-responder on all emails to datingpsychos.com which lets users know that I will get to their email as soon as possible, and if they want to make a donation I will remove the profile instantly. I DO NOT require a donation or payment in order to remove a profile.

I am truly sorry if you or your organization believes this to be the case. However for the record let me be clear. If someone writes in and calmly explains the situation and asks for a profile to be removed, then I typically read the profile in question and make a judgement call. Most times I wind up removing the profile and I have plenty of email history and contact info of hundreds of people who I have removed profiles for at no charge.

I have researched your WHOA organization and I fully support what your trying to accomplish. I do not support online abuse in any form and I do my best to remove any posts which I feel were wrongly posted, are obvious smear attempts, or which users have written in and asked to have removed.

If you or anyone else reading this has a profile posted on datingpsychos.com and would like it removed, please feel free to email me directly at J-Dog@Datingpsychos.com and I will review the profile and get back to you.

J-Dog

P.S. I will not be responding to any more posts on here as I have no interest in filling up this website with more needless back and forth.

10/28/2009 12:23:00 PM  
Blogger Net Crimes & Misdemeanors said...

I will no longer publish responses. However, I am keeping everything I receive.

10/28/2009 02:14:00 PM  
Blogger Investigator said...

Dear Jeff,

I am sorry that kristin seems to have roped you into this whole
issue.... here are a few facts that you might not be aware of :

1.) I have already removed her profile numerous times from the site and
it keeps getting reposted by different people.... I have already removed
over 15 profiles posted about her.... I cannot stop people from
re-posting her on the site... I can only take down the profiles as I see
them.

2.) I have explained to kristin numerous times that the only way to make
sure that her profile is removed from the site is for me to write a
script to automatically delete any new profiles posted about her.....
and that I would write this script in the future when I had some spare
time (as I am a very busy software developer)..... or, she could donate
$25 to me and I would drop everything and write a script to locate and
remove any profiles on her immediately....
http://datingpsychos.com/notice.html .... she knows how to have the
profile removed, but would rather stomp her feet and waste other
people's time.

3.) I have gone out of my way to work with kristin and she has continued
to write in almost daily with constant tirades and threats against my
person and my website... and I have the email history to proove it.

4.) I have made it very clear to kristin that all she has to do is
donate $25 to pay for my time and her profile, and any future profiles
on her, will be removed..... she has decided that she would rather
continue to stomp her feet, make threats, and have people contact me on
her behalf.

I am truly sorry that you seem to be caught in the middle of this, but
at this point I am so fed up with Kristin, her constant emails, and now
people contacting me once again trying to "scare" me with "possible
legal action"..... I will remove the profile when either $25 is donated to pay for my time to remove all her current/future profiles..... or
when I am presented with a court order stating that I must remove the offending material.

My site is not doing anything Ilegal so I have nothing to worry about from the FBI or DOJ.... I also have counsel on retainer so I am not too worried.

Have a nice day,
J-Dog


Jeremy did do the right thing and removed it thank you.

12/26/2009 08:50:00 PM  

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